Wednesday, October 01, 2008

Discussion Leaders' documents; chapter 4

Student discussion leaders are asked to select documents from Key and Bucholz, Sources and Debates, ch. 4 (Elizabethan Worlds):, listing 3 documents from chapter 5, 1st ed. (one from the new chapter from the 2nd edition) with 1-2 sentences on each explaining what the class should get out of those documents. Then, during the next class I announce to the rest of class which documents they should read based on those documents selected.

7 comments:

balkanization said...

4.1 Sir Humphrey Gilbert, A New Passage to Cataia, “What commodities would ensue, this passage once discovered” (1578) because Gilbert's explanations are mainly economic but there are some that are social engineering like sending our poor over to these colonies.

4.3 Earl of Essex, “The State of Ireland, as it appeared… during the Rebellion in 1599” (1599) because Essex seems amazed at the amount of interaction between the Anglo-Irish and the Wild Irish (how are you ever supposed to suppress an insurgency if you don't know the difference between those that support you and those that want to kill you? hmmmm, sound familiar?).

4.11 Archbishop Grindal to Elizabeth on Prophesyings (December 20, 1576) because Grindal is not very subservient to the Queen. If you want to, compare this to Elizabeth's answer as she is none too pleased with such a position. (Prophesyings are interesting as they are actually just local meetings to discuss practical applications of the Bible; not what they sound like.)

and, from the new ed. (handout)

4.15 Thomas Platter on London, the Theater, and the Court (1599) as Platter has a foreigner's insight to everything he sees, and there is such rich detail to marvel at the metropolis.
Newton K

Jessica said...

4.1 Sir Humphrey Gilbert, "What commodities would ensue, this passage once discovered" 1578
This passage discusses issues that are mainly economic, but that also involve various countries because England was not the only country to venture to new lands for economic gain. It also discusses who will be sent there: needy people, prisoners, etc.

4.6 Elizabeth to James VI of Scotland
This is an important letter because although Mary, Queen of Scots has died, Elizabeth wishes to remain a close ally of her son, James. This letter shows that Queen Elizabeth is attempting to reconcile their relationship by offering her loyalty as a kinswoman and friend.

4.12 Puritans described by Archbishop Whitgift (1574)
This passage shows what the church of England felt about these so called puritans. It describes the way these two religious sects treat each other. This shows us why Puritans felt the need to travel to North America to escape the Church of England: they were despised by them.

kit said...

4.2 [book] - 'richard hakluyt, the first english voyage made to the coasts of america' - he talks about his first encounters with native americans, describing them as friendly and curious people, loyal and respectful to their own 'king' and 'nobility'. hakluyt believes trade is possible regardless of the language barrier.

4.4 [packet] - 'earl of essex, the state of ireland as it appeared...during the rebellion' - shows english view of irish and elizabeth's difficulty in controlling them. also shows the unwillingness of the irish to give up culture, especially conversion to protestantism [outside the pale].

4.1 [book / packet] - 'sir humphrey gilbert, what commodities would ensue this passage once discovered' - list of great things that would come after the finding of a passage to the 'east parts'. obvious economic gain / advantage over competition: spain, portugal, france, italy, etc. also a place to send criminals and the poor [so they, or their children, dont become criminals].

Tom and Ashlie said...

4.3 Sir Henry Sidney to Queen Elizabeth on Munster and Connaught. This short paragraph goes into a lot of detail about Sir Henry's view of Ireland. I also like how it ties in with 4.1

4.5 Elizabeth's Reply to the House of Common's Demand for Mary's Execution. I like this document because we're not just dealing with traders here we're dealing with family. The scandals for the throne and the deception and lies that come from everywhere...expecially family. I just keep thinking of the movie, and Elizabeth trying to seem strong, until she know's that Mary's dead and there's just this wave of emotion that comes over her. Definately think this document should be looked into and be one for the class.

4.13 Archbishop Grindal to Elizabeth on propheyings.
It's more like a persuasion speech. He wants to preach and so he's trying (he being Grindal) to show Elizabeth the point and positives to doing so.

Ashlie Coleman

Drew Mallicoat said...

4.1 Sir Humphrey Gilbert, A New Passage to Cataia.
This passage is an emphatic declaration of the many benefits of expanding the British Realm. There are plenty of economic reasons that the British should participate in this kind of activity especially in regards to the reality that other countries would benefit from this too. Gilbert lauds the opportunities that could arise that otherwise would be impossible at home.

4.2 Richard Hakluyt, The First Voyage Made to the Coasts of America
This passage tells of the first encounter with the Native American population of the new world. descriptions of the people and of the goods were lauded in such a way (especially in naming and listing the numerous trade opportunities/successes with the native americans) as to be unbelievably appealing in many areas (economic, social, etc.) by those in Europe.

4.6 Elizabeth to James VI of Scotland
This passage is important as Elizabeth seeks to mend relations with James after the death of Mary. In a showing of early diplomacy efforts between nations, Elizabeth shows her desire for less turmoil and also her political savvy by desiring to remain an ally of James and pledging her loyalty. Her foreign intelligence and diplomacy are apparent in this letter.

Jennifer said...

4.8 The Miraculous Victory Achieved by the Englsih Fleete( pub. 1598)was about England's defeat of the Spanish Armada and the country's strong desrire to become an elite Eurpean nation. The account describes the English fleet as brave, and the original author definately poked fun at Catholic nations and the Spanish fleet in general because of his protestant beliefs.

4.9 Queen Elizabeth's Tilbury Speech (Aug. 9, 1588, pub. 1654)is an attempt by Elizabeth to distance herself from traditional gender roles. The speech makes it sound as if Elizabeth was confident that her small fleet would defeat the much larger and more experienced SPanish Armada, and that could be contributed to her desire to want England to know her loyalty and faith of God and country.

4.12 Puritans described by Archbisop Whitgift (1574) compares the Puritans to a medieval heretical group. Throughout the document Whitgift points out that the group has no respect for the church itself or religous practices.

Jessica said...

4.3 Earl of Essex, "The State of Ireland, as it appeared... during the Rebellion in 1599" gives reasons why the attempted reformation and colonization of Ireland had been (and would continue to be) so difficult.

4.6 The House of Commons' Report on Mary Queen of Scots and Elizabeth's reply touches upon Elizabeth's difficulties with her Scottish counterpart. The problem of Mary Queen of Scots was complicated and any action taken would have repercussion on many levels - political, social, familial.

4.15 (packet) Thomas Platter on London, the Theater, and the Court is basically a love letter to the city... interesting because while I'm sure it seemed nice at the time, I'm not sure I'd want to spend much time in 16th century London purely for reasons of hygiene.

Jessica

 

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